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gdionelli

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I ' m starting to think I should get the prize for the longest injury . Here ' s my timetable :

November 2015 - pikermi PR

January 2016 - hyper colleague insisted on helping me move stage equipment that he didn ' t know how to move ( I was accustomed to moving it by myself and didn ' t need anyone being a " gentleman .") Result - sprained ankle .

March 2016 - Sprained ankle healed . Feral cat momma and kittens acquired and moved indoors , necessitating many trips up and down stairs . Ran a bit , but sinus infection prevented full return .

May 2016 - began running again in earnest , but very slowly and gradually .

June 2016 - peroneal tendons began popping painfully , the week before a long - planned anniversary hiking trip . Usual podiatrist not available , so cold - called and got an appointment with another . There may have been a reason this one had an opening . I was diagnosed ( correctly ) with peroneal subluxation . Prescribed " conservative treatment " ( incorrectly .) That meant one month in a cast , one month of PT , and one more month of rest and prescription NSAID . The more medical journal articles I read , the more I saw the phrases " high failure rate " and " rarely successful " in relation to conservative treatment of peroneal subluxation . But I think insurance requires trying it before an MRI is allowed . I ' d happily have paid for an MRI myself .

September 2016 - finally allowed to have MRI , which of course showed that I ' d had a tear of a peroneal tendon all this time . Wasted summer .

October 13 2016 - surgery to repair tendon . Surgeon blithely said I ' d be back to running in 6 - 8 weeks . 

End of November 2016 - finally started PT - still on crutches . PT lasted till ...

End of April 2017 - when my insurance benefit ran out . I could walk fine , and run a little . PTs had watched me run , analyzed my gait , and given me exercises to correct imbalances in my hips and strengthen my toes and the other ankle . Ankle still bigger than the other one , and stiff , but perfectly trustworthy . I was the owner of two pairs of custom orthotics . 

May 2017 - began a return to running . Very slowly and gradually - starting with intervals of one minute running , one minute walking . 

June 2017 - pulled out my Newtons and did an interval run . After about the 4th interval I realized my big toe was hurting . I thought it was just a fleeting pain , but it has hurt off and on ever since when weightbearing . Two of my podiatrists have moved away , and a third one is not in my current medical practice , so I need a new one . My primary physician knew of my problem , so I thought I could get a referral by phone , but no - I have to go for a referral to the walk - in ( no pun intended ) clinic - which has very limited hours , all of which are times I teach . I ' m planning to cancel teaching next week to get there , and hopefully I won ' t have to wait a month for the appointment .  I suspect sesamoiditis . My chiropractor suspects a bunion , my massage therapist turf toe . I wonder how fixable it will be since the main problem is that the ankle is still swollen and stiff .

Over the course of the last year and a half   I ' ve gained a good bit of weight . For months my husband was doing all the shopping , and while I was in the cast and also after the surgery friends brought high - calorie meals , plus there might have been some comfort eating , too . I can walk and do the elliptical - but not for very long . I do ride a stationary bike , but even that starts to bother me after half an hour . Swimming is not my choice of exercise because I don ' t like soaking my violin callouses .  But I know the extra weight is not helping the injury .

I ' ve tried not to post about this - really , it ' s no fun posting about non - running . I ' d love to hear some happy stories about folks who have survived long injuries and returned successfully to running ! I know it ' s going to be a long way back .

 

 

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I noticed your   injury cycle started after the last time I was in WV . Maybe it ' s all due to Moose withdrawal ?

Jokes aside , this truly sucks . I hope you see the end of it ! Fingers crossed ...

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Wow , sorry to hear that .

I ' ve had an injury this year , but nothing like what you ' ve gone through .

I am very new to running , only a couple of years of 3 or so miles every other day .  Last June I ran walked the Mt Washington auto road race .  It was a ton of fun .  Then in August 2016 I did the hill climb on my bike , also amazing , but really hard .  I had so much fun at both events that I decided to give them an honest go again this year .  I hired a coach in September last year to get me up the hill ( both the run and ride ) in 2017 in much faster times than 2016 .  I was slowly   increasing my miles both on the bike and on foot .  By February of 2017 I ran my longest run ever , 10 miles .  After that I started having knee pain .  Went to the ortho doc , they did an MRI , sprained my hamstring which I was feeling in my knee where it attached .  Fired the coach since I couldn ' t ride or run .  Did almost nothing for months , got pretty depressed about my up coming summer .

I had been seeing a PT for a while ( since Feb 2017 ), he said I could start back on the treadmill at an incline .  He told me the type of injury I had would not like the pounding / stopping sensation from running , but that would be reduced if at an incline .  I slowly started adding the time on the treadmill at 12 % and was able to do the hill climb again this year .  He also gave me exercises   to help stabilize my hips , I had never done any of those .  If I had , I probably never would have been injured at all .

I made it to the top , that ' s the best I can say about the walk .  I ran almost none of it this year .  I have already started training for next June .  I was not able to do the hill ride this year , not sure if I want to try to do it again .  I can always say I did it , that was 2 hours of pure , unrelenting torture .

At this point I feel I am mostly healed .  The knee still hurts at times , but it ' s a lot better .  I ' m maybe 75 % as fit as I was this winter .  I am being cautious about starting back to fast .  I ' m finally up to 3 miles every other day .  Next month ( tomorrow ) I will go to 4 miles every other day .  I will make it up that hill again .

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Good for you . Sounds like you ' re coming back sensibly .

I think we all should do hip exercises . My PTs gave me some really good ones and I felt like my hips were working much better than before when the toe thibg sidelined me .

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I think I have you beat on both length of injiury as well as the number of custom inserts . My running started to gradually reduce late 2014 and by February 2015 I had to tap out . Three podiatrists , three sets of custom inserts . Not a contest that I particularly like to know I ' m leading , but you haven ' t given up and neither will I !!!! And don ' t even get me started on weight gain - GAH ! I seemed to be doing okay until around this time last year and WHAMO !! I wake up one morning and could barely button any of my pants   :|  and my arms - well , let ' s just say that even after I stop waving , they have a mind of their and just keep on jiggling ' till long after you are around the corner and out of sight . It ' s been very hard on me mentally - I had struggled with weight my entire life and running finally helped me find my way back from a   long - term prison   of eating disorders and what not . I can ' t say that I haven ' t thought about going back there in times of considerable panic ,  it really would be all too easy ,  but remembering those dark days and what it took to walk away from it all - if I can get through that I can get through this .

If it helps any , just keep Catchowder ' s ( Lynsey Bray in Loopville ) scenario in the back of your mind . Debilitating back pain   for the past several years , then   back fusion surgery in July if I ' m not mistaken , and she is now up to walking 2 miles non - stop , is off pain meds , and is noticing continued   improvement . 

Sadly , it comes down to finding a doctor who is on the same page and thinks in terms of finding the cause - not just treating the symptoms . It ' s sad that we have to claw and fight the very people whom we pay ( and are supposed to trust ) to help us get better ! 

Hang in there lady - someday you , me , and Lynsey will cross the finish line - maybe even all together in person and not just in spirit !

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Sorry about the injuries .

I ' ve never been injured for that long - my cycle was get injured , start training , get close to big race and get injured again ( repeat over and over ).  

Have you tried a rowing machine ?  Might be able get a decent workout that way .  I would have said swimming but I can understand the need to preserve beneficial calluses . 

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That ' s a long time gdionelli !   Fingers crossed you ' ll be back to running some time soon .   I ' ve been more or less injured for close to   a year now .   PF is almost in my   rear view mirror .   I ' ll bloop about it when I get a chance .   Good luck to both of us !

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I had to google peroneal tendon to know what you were struggling with . I have had difficulty in the same area but it turned numb rather than painful . Strangely , both outside edges of my feet are numb , but I haven ' t mentioned it to any doctor since no feeling is better than no pain . Sounds like a sad love song .

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4 hours ago, running_eng said:

 

Have you tried a rowing machine ?  Might be able get a decent workout that way .  

I haven ' t tried a rowing machine recently - early on in the ankle rehab it bothered me . But maybe I ' ll try it next time I ' m at the Y - the stationary bike really bores me !

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5 hours ago, meowmom said:

I think I have you beat on both length of injiury as well as the number of custom inserts . My running started to gradually reduce late 2014 and by February 2015 I had to tap out . Three podiatrists , three sets of custom inserts . Not a contest that I particularly like to know I ' m leading , but you haven ' t given up and neither will I !!!! And don ' t even get me started on weight gain - GAH ! I seemed to be doing okay until around this time last year and WHAMO !! I wake up one morning and could barely button any of my pants   :|  and my arms - well , let ' s just say that even after I stop waving , they have a mind of their and just keep on jiggling ' till long after you are around the corner and out of sight . It ' s been very hard on me mentally - I had struggled with weight my entire life and running finally helped me find my way back from a   long - term prison   of eating disorders and what not . I can ' t say that I haven ' t thought about going back there in times of considerable panic ,  it really would be all too easy ,  but remembering those dark days and what it took to walk away from it all - if I can get through that I can get through this .

If it helps any , just keep Catchowder ' s ( Lynsey Bray in Loopville ) scenario in the back of your mind . Debilitating back pain   for the past several years , then   back fusion surgery in July if I ' m not mistaken , and she is now up to walking 2 miles non - stop , is off pain meds , and is noticing continued   improvement . 

Sadly , it comes down to finding a doctor who is on the same page and thinks in terms of finding the cause - not just treating the symptoms . It ' s sad that we have to claw and fight the very people whom we pay ( and are supposed to trust ) to help us get better ! 

Hang in there lady - someday you , me , and Lynsey will cross the finish line - maybe even all together in person and not just in spirit !

I thought after I posted this , " well , duh , of course Meowmom and Catchowder have me beat !"  I do think the weight gain is adding insult to injury . I lost 40 pounds about 10 years ago ( a year or so before I started running ), gained about 10 back after hitting menopause , but then kept the rest off ... until this . I , too , had struggled with weight my whole life and thought I had mastered it .  You ' re right about finding the right doctor - it ' s hard to believe I will , but I have to try ! 

No , we ' re not giving up !

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1 hour ago, Apple Pie said:

That ' s a long time gdionelli !   Fingers crossed you ' ll be back to running some time soon .   I ' ve been more or less injured for close to   a year now .   PF is almost in my   rear view mirror .   I ' ll bloop about it when I get a chance .   Good luck to both of us !

I hope that nasty PF is stuck way back in traffic , never to reappear !! Good luck to you , too !

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1 hour ago, Brian said:

I had to google peroneal tendon to know what you were struggling with . I have had difficulty in the same area but it turned numb rather than painful . Strangely , both outside edges of my feet are numb , but I haven ' t mentioned it to any doctor since no feeling is better than no pain . Sounds like a sad love song .

How odd ! I hadn ' t heard about numbness there . And yes , what a great line for a song lyric !

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Well , what do you know : the site seems to be working !  Anyway , this is my inaugural comment , and boy , do you need one !

I ' m currently trying to break free of my own 14 - month injury cycle -- in my case , an inflamed piriformis / sciatica combo , with a possible touch of arthritic hip on the left side .  During that time , I ' ve run only two races , and only one of them at an all - out effort .  I ' ve been unable to do speedwork ( a mixed blessing , in my opinion ), because it causes me to relapse .  And I ' m running about 45 seconds / mile slower than I was in 2015 .  But I ' m making progress , doing what I can safely do and adjusting my expectations .  I ' m back up to about 25 miles / week , with hill repeats and careful tempo runs to add some safe intensity to the easy runs .  I do a lot more icing and ibuprofen , plus some additional stretching and core work as a preventative .  And next Sunday I ' m running a half marathon -- my first since March of 2016 .  I doubt that I ' ll ever get back to where I was , but that ' s due partly to the aging process .  And it ' s actually made me grateful : grateful that I was able to run some big events , like Loopfests and other destination races when I was healthier .  And I still have a lot of hope , because I had similar problems around 2010 ( which almost prevented me from running in the original Loopsterfest ), but recovered completely .  In fact , at one point ( 2013 - 2016 ) I had no injuries at all and did my best running since college .  Over time , I think I ' ve been better able to recognize the limits of what I could do , training - wise , and make adjustments .  But the learning curve is still underway .  I wish you the best , because I ' d like to be able to read more of your adventures !

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Thanks , AB . I hope you ' re able to enjoy your pikermi , regardless of speed . And it gives me hope that you got back from your 2010 problems . That damn " aging process " - I was planning to nip it in the bud by staying in shape - and then the stage accident changed everything .  Now I ' m really concerned about it .

I ' ll expect a big race report from you after next week ' s race !!!

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Is this where I join the long injury club ? I ' ve had PF on and off since mid - 2015 . Every time I start trying to run again it comes back . I just started up again and I ' m taking it real slow ( like 1min run , 4 min walk slow ) and lots of stretching and exercises . I ' m hoping this time it ' ll work . I haven ' t ran anything more than a not - all - out 5K since Bandera in January 2015 . I miss it .

 

I hope you can find a good doctor and heal from this stuff once and for all !!

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Dang ! I ' m sorry you ' re going through this stuff , too . I hope the rehab works for you this time . Wish we lived closer to each other - we could run - walk together !

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I ' ve had some small calf tears that healed fairly quickly but then a months long bout of shin splints and   PF on and off again for now over a year has kept me out of any serious running . It ' s gotten ok enough that I can walk a lot and do some shorter runs but I always feel the stiffness the next day . Last " real " race was a half marathon three Aprils ago . :(

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Maybe those planks and the resulting core strength once the new arrival has arrived will help your other problems ! 

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I knew you ' d been struggling for a long time , but didn ' t pay attention to the fact that it ' s been almost 2 years . How depressing . And navigating the referral process can feel so defeating . I ' m glad you ' re ready to start fighting back again - hope you get some relief this time .  

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1 minute ago, ComplusiveRunner said:

I knew you ' d been struggling for a long time , but didn ' t pay attention to the fact that it ' s been almost 2 years . How depressing . And navigating the referral process can feel so defeating . I ' m glad you ' re ready to start fighting back again - hope you get some relief this time .  

Thanks , Carol !

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Developed peroneal tendinitis around 10 months ago - first in one leg and then in the other .  Just starting to come out on the other side .  Its never ending or at least feels that way .  Good luck !

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1 hour ago, Running Nutz said:

Developed peroneal tendinitis around 10 months ago - first in one leg and then in the other .  Just starting to come out on the other side .  Its never ending or at least feels that way .  Good luck !

So sorry . I had had twinges in my peroneal tendons in the past , but it was apparently the sprain that caused the subluxation and tear .  PT seemed to indicate that calf stretches would be the most important thing to protect peroneal tendons from injury . Hope you stay out on the other side !

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Stupid bodies ... Hang in there . There ' s got to be some light at the end of this tunnel .

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49 minutes ago, BANGLE said:

Stupid bodies ... Hang in there . There ' s got to be some light at the end of this tunnel .

Thanks , Bangle . Just got a referral for a new podiatrist - I ' m looking for light !

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That ' s a serious rough patch , hope you ' re nearing the end of it . 

Worst I had was stubborn runner ' s knee on and off cor a couple years , but nothing like this . Once I finally got the right PT and strength regimen , beat it and have been running steadily since . Hang on , you ' ll get back there too . 

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